80-96-list-digest Wednesday, June 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 222



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Electronic transmissions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Water Stain
Re: FTE 80-96 - 88 351 just stopped.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - Thanks & Elect. Speedo Recalibration
FTE 80-96 - RE: FIPK Info.....
FTE 80-96 - maps
FTE 80-96 - RE: 88 351 just stops
Re: FTE 80-96 - maps
FTE 80-96 - Re: Water Stain
FTE 80-96 - Center Console Removal
FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 Wobble steering....
FTE 80-96 - Stickers/Ken
Re: FTE 80-96 - Stickers/Ken
FTE 80-96 - Ford Excursion Page
FTE 80-96 - Fixed it....
FTE 80-96 - Lowest cost A/C (R12) recharging
RE: FTE 80-96 - Ford Excursion Page
FTE 80-96 - F-350 Stretch Limo!
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 Wobble steering....
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 Wobble steering....
FTE 80-96 - Rear Differential Seal
FTE 80-96 - Steering Stabilizers, Cepek Vs Rancho
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:Key Lock

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:46:00 -0400
From: "Lyter, Bob (Concert)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Electronic transmissions

Thanks for the info on the trans shudder fix.
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From: Jram
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Electronic transmissions
Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 11:47PM

I saw two different problems with electronic overdrive transmissions posted
on digest #218. If they are the AODE transmissions then the first complaint
of not wanting to engage at all and the leaking is from one of the pump
housing bolts leaking intermittently which is in the bell housing. The
complaint of shudder is from the torque converter clutch. Ford has now
changed there recommended service interval to 22,000 miles on all rear wheel
> drive electronic transmissions as far as I know. I guess a little bit too
late for owners of pre 97 vehicles. If servicing the shudder trans fixes
the shudder for only a short time then the torque converter will have to be
replaced for a permanent fix. Then service from then on and you should be
OK.


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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:43:19 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Water Stain

That actually doesn't sound like a bad price. Although that's probably enough to
repaint your entire truck. Can you get it in a pint? You should also be able to
find some one to custom mix you a pint. But before you go through all that, did you
try wet sanding the area lightly with 1000 or 1500 sand paper? A lot of times you
can remove imperfections that way. Just follow it up with a good buffing compound (a
light grit) and then finish with some glaze.

Chad

Casey Vandor wrote:

> I have those round rope cleats on the sides of the bed of the truck. When I
> bought the truck, the previous owner told me the things had started caroding
> (spell) from day one, so there is a trail of white down the brown paint and
> across the stripes. Is there anything I can do to get rid of them? I have
> tried Blue Coral Car Wash Gel and lots of elbow grease, but they are there
> to stay. Touch up is out of the quiestion too, as no body here makes Medium
> Walnut Mettallic color except Ford who would love to sell me a gallon for
> $100.00!!
>
> Thanks
> Casey Vandor



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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:52:53 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 88 351 just stopped.....

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Sunday, 21 June 98, Pat Daniels wrote:

> I have an 88 F350 4x4 with the stock 351 with the C6. Yesterday when I was
> driving home the truck just stopped running, no sputtering, just silence.
> I could still turn the truck over, but it just wouldn't start. I also
> noticed I didn't have my "Check Engine" light when I had the ignition
> turned to the on position with the truck not running. This went on for
> about 15 minutes then I turned the ignition on one time and noticed the
> "Check Engine" light was now on and the truck fired right up. I then
> started driving home via the local motocross track. I was there for 2
> hours jumped in the truck, made it about a mile and it stopped again. No
> "check engine" light again, no starting. It hasn't started for a few
> hours. Anyone seen this before? I haven't started troubleshooting it yet
> except for checking the fuses, the fuel inertia switch and what I could see
> under the hood. I disconnected the battery for a few minutes, thinking it
> might re-set the computer. It didn't. I do have spark so I'm leaning
> toward the EEC computer having killed the fuel pumps. The truck has dual
> tanks so I doubt both fuel pumps would die at the same time. I have read
> the Haynes manual on extracting fault codes from the EEC but have never
> done it and would like to know any tips or other peoples experiences, for,
> as I type this, my truck is sitting humiliated in the driveway. It
> suffered the humiliation of being towed home last night by, yes, a C***Y.

I've had this on early-eighties Ford trucks. It was the ignition
module back then. But the ignition module on your truck is much
better than the old one. Still, it's worth a check. If you have a
friend with an EFI smallblock Ford V8, they may have a module you can
pop in so you can see if it works before shelling out the $$$.
Basically when cold, the truck starts up and runs fine. After runing
awhile it gets warm and stops running, won't start. Cools down for
awhile and starts right back up again!

Chris mailto:chris yonderway.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:57:06 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thanks & Elect. Speedo Recalibration

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Friday, 19 June 98, Mark H. Neblett wrote:

> Many thanks for the suggestions for tire sizes to fill out the wheelwells on
> my '94 F-150 SC 4x4. I thought I might be able to return the favor by
> posting a "clean" version of the electronic speedometer calibration
> procedure from Stephen M. Brown (hurricanesteve geocities.com) that was
> posted a few days ago -- I rewrote it in an "idiot-proof" form (had to --
> I'm the one who's going to use it) as a checklist/procedure when I go to the
> bigger tires. Apologies in advance if the bandwidth is too much.

> 1. DETERMINE THE "CONVERSION CONSTANT":
[snip]

Good stuff, thanks for posting!

Hey, Ken, this would be good for the FTE web site, no?

Chris mailto:chris yonderway.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
1987 Ford F250 5.0L 2WD "Ugly Truckling" aka "Optimus Primer"

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:13:14 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: FIPK Info.....

Hi Pat,

The FIPK, Filtercharger Performance Kit, is a replacement to the
filter plenum that holds your filter in place. Basically it is a very
large filter that allows your engine to get all the air it needs with-
out any air drag as it flows thru the filter and housing.

Advantages:

Improved performance-approx. 10-15 hp 2500 rmp.
Improved fuel economy-approx. 2 miles per gallon.
Never needs replacement-clean every 50,000 miles

Dis-advantages:

Very loud-(some people think it sounds cool.)
Cleaning requires re-oiling.
costly-about $165.00

I purchased K&N PN 75-2503, which is the same for your truck.
Go to this web site for detailed information:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cyber1.virtualrep.com/scripts/webcatalog/performanceinternational
/search.tpl

K&N also has a web site but is mostly BS.

The kit also comes with a re-charger kit. You won't need it for
another 500.000 miles so store it where you can find it three
years from now. You should add a little more oil if you plan to
go off road, the squirt bottle they give you sucks more than
their filters. :-) Don't add too much, like Dave Resch said. I
have a motorcycle with a K&N jet kit so I used the spray
bottle that came with it, not the squirt bottle.

You will notice a great performance increase if you combine
this kit with a high flow cat-back exhaust and a power
computer chip like I did. But it will cost you big bucks.

Scott

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> From: Pat Daniels [SMTP:pdaniels ptialaska.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 10:35 PM
> To: sgiddens ball.com
> Subject: FIPK Info.....
>
> Scott,
> Saw your reply on the Ford site and was wondering, what is in the
> K&N
> > Fuel Injection Performance Kit? I have an 88 F350 4X4 crew cab with
> the
> fuel injected 351 and any increase in mileage would be nice. Did it
> help
> yours much? How much was it?
> Any info would be appreciated, Thanks
> Pat Daniels
> Kodiak, Alaska
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Date: 22 Jun 98 11:41:52 -0500
From: "Todd Johnston"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - maps

Hi everyone
I was wondering if there might be anyone in Ontario or Canada
that knows where i can get some 4x4 trail maps for the surrounding areas.
I live in Ontario so those would be the best ones for me but i wouldn't mind
having a couple for other parts of Canada in case i want to go on vacation
somewhere different. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Todd Johnston
Big Bronco Bustin
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