80-96-list-digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 239



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In this issue:

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Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Anti-SUV survey
Re: FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction
FTE 80-96 - RE:
FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Feedback Solenoid
re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Car & Driver this month
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 302 timing advance
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:36:25 PDT
From: "Jorge Ramirez"
Subject: [none]

I'm new to the list, so HELLO everybody.

I have a 1993 F150 XLT/5.0L/AOD/3.55 Non-Limited Slip/Trailer Tow
package. I bought it used, so I don't have much history on it.
I am a long time 1976 F250 user, and I just got this F150.

Just wondering, after reading the list for a couple of days, if anyone
has come across this.

My trans shifts from 1 to 2 and drops only 200 RPM, then from 2 to 3 it
drops about 700 RPM, from 3 to 4 it drops about 500 RPM.

The shift from 2 to 3 really bogs down the engine (DUH).

Is this normal, is it an effort at improved gas mileage, or is this a
problem?

The trans was either rebuilt or replaced before I got the truck,it has
on XYZ trans sticker on the inside driver door frame. The oil pan gasket
is clean (new) and the fluid is clean and clear.

Any insight would be great.

Thanks,


Jorge E. Ramirez
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:52:32 -0400
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Anti-SUV survey

On 9 Jul 98, at 22:09, BFunk33 aol.com wrote:

>SUV's do get lower MPG than a straight passenger vehicle, and that means
>higher emissions; sorry, that's reality. Also, SUV's, when compared to
>passenger vehicles with same-size engines, are heavier, not lighter, as a
>rule. Pickups (and larger SUVs) are allowed higher emission levels because
>they often are working vehicles. if they had to follow the same emission
> >rules (quotas) as passenger cars, they wouldn't be able to do the work
>they do, and more people would be forced into even larger vehicles, which
>pollute even more. This is something they obviously never considered.
>(Maybe, actually working for a living is something they never actually
>considered.)

I agree whole heartedly. My truck has been used a few times for
hauling things. I was working for a security system company, I
had to to take ladders and everything else out to different jobsites
and that kind of thing. There is no way in hell you could fit all of
the materials, tools, wire spools and other things into a passenger
car. That's something that some people just dont' consider. Sure,
my truck is my primary vehicle, who cares. It's got the catalatic
(SP?) converters underneath which are supposed to be reducing
the pollution. I have seen other cars that pollute a heck of a lot
more than my truck does!

You might be a redneck if... Stealing road signs is a family
outing. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:52:32 -0400
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction

On 9 Jul 98, at 13:53, FSTFORDS aol.com wrote:

>AND, this roadhog thing your on...get a clue...pick on the truckers...and
>the old cars......my vehicle runs less than 100ppm and my CO's are well
>within tolerance!

How are the people with old cars and the truckers road hogs? I
see more people in the compact cars that think they own the roads
more than the truckers and other drivers. I have been cut off more
times by people in passenger cars. I haven't had it happen to me
from a truck driver.

You might be a redneck if... Your handkerchief doubles as your
shirt sleeve. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:32:24 -0400
From: "John Meade"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Meade [mailto:wmeade nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 9:12 AM
To: 80-96list ford-trucks.com
Subject:

I'm looking for advice for fixing a few problems with my very plain 86 f150
302 . How can I determine if the radiator fan clutch is bad? On the
highway the front end drifts to the point that it becomes annoying to
constantly correct the truck direction. I would like thoughts on what I can
do, add, or replace. I'm riding on Michelin truck radials. This truck
also has the easiest PS of any vehicle I've owned. Can I tighten the PS or
stiffen the steering? How?

John

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Preston
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

>Don't sit there and tell me that we re making a bad >choice when it
>comes to the safety of the highways. There are tons >of 18
>wheelers out there, they are not hazards. Heck, the >drivers of
>those trucks are probably the safest that I have seen >yet. It's the
>ones in the small cars that think they can whip around >other people
>like a bumble bee that cause the wrecks.

I have not taken the survey yet, but this comment above is grossly
inacurate. Those 18 wheelers are involved with 75% of the accidents in
our state. Is that because of the smaller cars? I think not. They have
no regard for other drivers on the road whatsoever. In many cases they
have come flying up behind people in the middle lane going the speed
limit and start flashing their lights and riding their tail
dangerously. In addition, they have destroyed our highways here to the
point that they are under constant repair. I happen to live in an area
where there is a truck stop at the entrance to the highway. They park
wherever they feel the need, regardless of anyone else. They don't
care who they block. I do agree that in many cases there are idiots in
smaller cars that cause some of the accidents, but in the majority of
the accidents on our highways, 18 wheelers were the cause.
Obviously you struck on one of my pet peeves. This is by no means
meant for every 18 wheeler. I am sure that there are some out there
that do care. I hope you are one of them.
Joe Preston





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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:50:44 -0600
From: "David Sagers"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

OK, Joe

You wrote

>I have not taken the survey yet, but this comment above is grossly
inacurate. Those 18 wheelers are involved with 75% of the accidents in our =
state.

Do you have something to back up the 75%, or was this a number you =
guesstimate?

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:55:17 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

At 07:11 AM 7/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Don't sit there and tell me that we re making a bad >choice when it
>>comes to the safety of the highways. There are tons >of 18
>>wheelers out there, they are not hazards. Heck, the >drivers of
>>those trucks are probably the safest that I have seen >yet. It's the
>>ones in the small cars that think they can whip around >other people
>>like a bumble bee that cause the wrecks.
>
>I have not taken the survey yet, but this comment above is grossly
>inacurate. Those 18 wheelers are involved with 75% of the accidents in
>our state.

75%??!!!!!! Where do you get your statistics? Federal crash data
shows the majority of accidents happen within a few miles of home,
not on the interstate. Also, most accidents are left turn accidents
(someone turns left in front of you) involving autos.

>Is that because of the smaller cars? I think not. They have
>no regard for other drivers on the road whatsoever. In many cases they
>have come flying up behind people in the middle lane going the speed
>limit and start flashing their lights and riding their tail
>dangerously.

This is small minority. What about the auto tail-gators?

>In addition, they have destroyed our highways here to the
>point that they are under constant repair.

Really? Or is it that your state doesn't take care of the roads?
Come to Georgia! We have the some of the finest roads in the nation.
Can't blame it on the South, because Florida's road suck.


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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:05:38 -0400
From: D Robertson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Feedback Solenoid

Walt :

I was having the pining problem , then (many months later) the carb started
to run real rich at idle. The two problems were separate but having the
carb rebuilt which included a new solenoid cured the problem. I just read
somewhere in the manual that the earlier trucks solenoid has a different
resistance and warns about using the wrong part. One person told me the
spring in the solenoid wears out. On a slightly different note I had the
carb first rebuilt by a local guy and it lasted 6 months , then it dumped
gas out of everywhere. I then redid it myself with a real Motorcraft kit
and it lasted 18 months , last year I had it done again by another local
and it lasted a year. Finally last month ,I purchased a brand new carb from
Motorcraft , It cost me $320 (through a friend with a repair shop) The
truck runs like brand new. I should have done it years ago. When I add up
the costs of the rebuilds it was half the cost of a new carb. I hope I did
not ramble on too long.

Dave
86 F-150 w/140 K miles


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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:30:34, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

Mr. Preston,

If you think that 75% of accidents are caused by 18 wheelers in your
state, you better move or find me some evidence. You just happened to
strike "one of my pet peeves" too. Your 75% is "grossly inacurate!"
There is no way that can happen. If 18 wheelers are involved in 75%
of the crashes (I doubt it anyway) how do you know they caused every
accident? Have you ever driven one of these things? There are strict
laws to keep these rigs safe and the drivers alert. You must have had
a bad experience as a child (just a guess) to hold that bad of a
grudge against them. Sure there are some guys that think they own
the road and everyone should move, but there are Harley riders with
bad attitudes, sports car owners that drive "too fast," old people
who can't drive ot drive too slow. So before you make general
statement on the list, you should think about the number of "good and
safe operators" of these rigs in comparison to the one or two
d*ckheads. Most of these truck drivers car about other cars because
they can easily kill anyone with a little mistake. No doubt they are
larger and heavier than anything, but it is much more efficient to
carry say 30,000 lbs in a dump truck once instead of 2,000 lbs 15
times in one ton trucks.
Josh
ps. By the way, where do you live? You make it sound like hell.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:00:42 PDT
From: "Arnold G."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

I don't know where you are, but from my sixteen years of driving
experiences and having an uncle that is 18- wheel owner and driver. What
you have experienced is extremely rare. From Nevada to Missouri, from
Texas to Wyoming I have only seen the bad driven twice. Remember that is
in sixteen years of driving. I am on the road quite a bit and have
observed a lot of different drivers. And it is my observation that
drivers (of all vehicles) from the far east and from California are the
WORST. They have no manners, patients, or road savvy. They usually
speed excessively and lane change dangerously (with using a turn
indicators), tailgate, and exit the highway (or any road for that
matter) after the road markings prevent it (ya-know those double solid
white or yellow lines).
I agree with some of the past posts, 18-wheeler drivers are some the
BEST drivers on the road (PERIOD). It usually the “small” car that
causes the jack-knifing of the semi’s. Making those “oops I missed my
exit” turns. Yes there are bad drivers in all vehicles (including the
18-wheelers) so don’t condemn the 18-wheelers for a few bad ones. My
uncle tells me stories of people cutting my off so he will wreck into
them so they can sue the pants off him and his company. They use the
“big bad truck” theory in court.


>Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Joe Preston
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>
>>Don't sit there and tell me that we re making a bad >choice when it
>>comes to the safety of the highways. There are tons >of 18
>>wheelers out there, they are not hazards. Heck, the >drivers of
>>those trucks are probably the safest that I have seen >yet. It's the
>>ones in the small cars that think they can whip around >other people
>>like a bumble bee that cause the wrecks.....

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