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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, September 13 1997 Volume 01 : Number 110



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In this issue:

351 swap in 88 f/s bronco [Mobleaudio aol.com]
Re: Aftermarket Fuel Pump [Bill Funk ]
FS: Ranger [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Ranger mileage? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Rough running 4.9L six 90 Ford truck ["Charles A. Biggs"
Re: Rough running 4.9L six 90 Ford truck [tglundy juno.com (Tim g Lundy)]
Ruff Idle-Poor Gas Mileage ["Bill" ]
84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [Jeffrey Scott Gaines ]
Re: 5.0L mileage [Lehmandp aol.com]
Re: Superchargers [Lehmandp aol.com]
Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [Lehmandp aol.com]
Re: 4.0 swap into a 2.3 Ranger [Lehmandp aol.com]
Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [Lehmandp aol.com]
302 truck (4X) sump specification [yhtlines surfari.net]
Re: Ranger mileage? [helotie juno.com (Mark A Helotie)]
Automotive Home Pages [Jerad Heffner ]

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 06:37:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mobleaudio aol.com
Subject: 351 swap in 88 f/s bronco
>
I have a 1988 f/s bronco with a dead 302f.i. engine. I also have a 351f.i.
engine(also in need of a rebuild) out of a 90 f/s bronco with all accessories
still on it. I also have the computer, but can't remember if i have the
wiring harness. What else do i need to do this swap?i.e. are the harnesses
different, and will everything bolt right up?

My truck has a 4" rancho lift with 33x12.50x15" on 15x10" A.R.E. wheels, but
i want a 6" lift(i already have 15x36x15 dick cepek radials). What's the best
lift kit and what should i do about the steering? I have heard many different
opinions on the subject. Plus, i would like more power than the stock 351.
Can anyone suggest a rebuild kit or a long block with enough power to run the
big meats? I want to stay emissions legal on this vehicle, and like every one
else, on a budget.

Thanks for any help that you can give,
Leslie Zettler

1988 f/s Bronco, 1986 mild custom Pontiac Trans Am, 1986 f/s Bronco(stock,
300 c.i., auto), 1978 Chevy Caprice Classic 4dr( parts car), 1977 Chevy Impala
4dr, 1969 Chevy Camaro(radical custom-under construction, very slow,
construction)

***If anyone has any car stereo questions, I will gladly help out in any way
I can. That's what I do ;-). Just send me an e-mail with your question at
mobleaudio aol.com. Thanks again

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 07:22:19 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: Aftermarket Fuel Pump

> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 16:35:43 -0700
> From: Joe Maleski
> Subject: Anyone Had Luck Ordering Parts Online?
>
> This past Monday after doing an internet search I found about a half
> dozen
> or so Ford dealers who have web pages for their parts departments,
> offering
> on line quotes (via E-Mail) and UPS shipping after credit card
> authorization over the phone. OK, so now it is Friday afternoon and
> so far
> *not one* response to my request for pricing on a couple of fuel pumps
> to
> solve that pesky vapor lock problem.
>
> Question: Have any of you had any luck ordering parts this way? Any
> recommendations short of just going down to the local dealer and
> buying the
> things the old-fashioned way? By the way, Carter does indeed make an
> aftermarket fuel pump, but the price is $170.00.

It's been a while since I've done this, but for a truly fine inline (not
in-tank) fuel pump, check out the local heavy equipment dealers (Case,
John Deere, etc.). Their pumps are powerful and rugged. Cost may be a
little on the high side, but the things usually last forever.Make sure
you get a 12V model, not a 24V.
Bill Funk

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:08:43, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: FS: Ranger

For Sale: 1995 Ranger XLT, regular cab, shortbox, 4x2, and bright
red in color with a grey interior. The truck is fully loaded with
power windows, power locks, power mirrors, A/C, tilt, cruise, AM/FM
cassette with premium sound, remote keyless entry with anti-theft, 6
disc CD changer, ps, pb, aluminum wheels, sliding rear window, 60/40
split bench seat, and a 4 cylinder and a 5 speed. 5 year/75,000 miles
full coverage extended warranty (expires 5/2/2000). 27,000 miles.
Babied and economical. 25 mpg city and easy 30 mpg on the highway.
I got 37 mpg a few times on the highway! E-mail: KNBD87D prodigy.com
or 1-800-456-0243 and ask for Josh. $9500 O/BO

Josh

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:10:19, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Ranger mileage?

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me the mileage I could expect to get with a 4.OL and
a 5 speed manual in a regular cab 4x2 Ranger?

Josh

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:59:31 -0500
From: "Charles A. Biggs"
Subject: Rough running 4.9L six 90 Ford truck

I am still trying to solve the rough idle and "flat" excelleration of
my 1990 F-150 six. I have replaced plugs, dist cover and rotor, wires,
fuel filter and air filter with absolutely no improvement. I ran
diagnostics on it and the only thing I could find out of spec was that
the MAP sensor read 152 Hz at about 20 feet elevation with the engine
> off (specs are 157-163 at sea level.) Does anyone have experience with
these readings to know if this small difference could cause my rough
running problems?



TiA,

Chuck Biggs

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:20:56 -0400
From: tglundy juno.com (Tim g Lundy)
Subject: Re: Rough running 4.9L six 90 Ford truck

ckeck your catalytic converter it my be pluged..

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:43:07 -0700
From: "Bill"
Subject: Ruff Idle-Poor Gas Mileage

I have a 1990 F-150 with a 302, fuel injectors and a 2 speed O/D tranny.
It has always had a ruff idle and poor mileage, 11 mpg. There also seems to
be a miss at highway speeds. But it has the get and go when I need the
power. I have replaced the fuel and air filters and also the O2 sensor. I
even took in to a Ford dealer and had the fuel pressure checked and also the
injectors cleaned and checked. Additionally, they hook up a computer
troubleshooting system and we drove around to isolate the problem. No
luck...no fault codes. Everything was within computer spec? The truck is
very dependable, never had any problems mechanically, except brakes. I do
have a problem with peeling paint, but that's another subject. Does anyone
have any suggestions on what I might try next...short of selling it? All
comments are appreciated.

Thanks,
Bill Coates

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 15:19:02 -0700
From: Jeffrey Scott Gaines
Subject: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP?

I've had a 1988 Bronco II 2WD 5-speed, and now own a 1989 4WD w/AT, both
with the 2.9L V6. My 1988 had 128,000 niles on it, and I pulled my 1984
Dodge 400 convertible from Atlanta, GA to Clearwater, FL on a dolly, with
the back full of boxes and furniture, running the cruise control (in 4th
gear) with no trouble. I love this engine! My '89 has 102,000 and runs
flawlessly. My Chilton's manual rates the engine at 140 hp, with 170
ft.-lbs. of torque. The 2WD got 21/24 mpg. My 4WD gets 18 mpg around town,
but that's been with the air conditioning running wide open during my first
Florida summer. (I haven't taken any long road trips to be able to gauge
the highway mileage, but I'm figuring around 20-21 mpg.

Anyway, I've also dreamed of a 302 in mine, but until this engine gives me
trouble, I'll stay with her - I have many friends who've owned Bronco
> II's/Rangers/Aerostars with this same engine, and they seem pretty rugged -
one friend's stepmom has an '89 4WD automatic with 187,000 miles she's been
using to deliver the mail (ALL stop-and-go) through the Pennsylvania snow,
and has never had any trouble. It's a smooth, fairly torquey engine that
won't make you stop at the gas pump every 2 days.

Good luck!

J. Scott Gaines

>
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:51:02 -0500
>From: Jerad Heffner
>Subject: Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP?
>
>It's pretty bad when you reply to your own e-mails!
>
>What about the 2.9L? There's also the 2.8, but problems with the lifters
abound,
>so i've been told. I believe the '86 and newer models could have the 2.9 V6?
>Anyone have HP numbers on that? and maybe gas milage too?

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 15:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lehmandp aol.com
Subject: Re: 5.0L mileage

In a message dated 97-09-12 23:04:40 EDT, you write:



How does the oxygen sensor impact mileage? I'm not questioning your
knowledge, I'm trying to learn. Point to note: my brother got all of the
mechanic smarts in the family so you have to speak slow and use small words
with me when it comes to working on cars - I'm more computer savvy.

Also, how was the non-firing injector diagnosed?

2 days ago I had some 265/75/15s put on my truck (replaced 235/75/15s).
This was after my mileage appeared to start tanking. Front-end alignment
may be an issue, the truck is not tracking well lately.

Thanks again for the help.

Grady

ps Do you know which digest your other posting was in?
>>

Dear Grady Byram,

Thanks for getting back to me with your questions! You asked for me to
"speak slow and use small words" so please bear with me and the length of
this response.

Oxygen sensor:

According to the Chilton's, "Ford Full Size Trucks" repair manual (p/n 8136)
and "Ford Thunderbird" (p/n 8268) -- we've got two 5.0Ls in the family -- the
oxygen sensor is used to measure the difference between the oxygen content of
the exhaust gases so the EEC-IV can compare it to that of the outside air.
This difference is the "combustion efficiency" of the engine. Since this
sensor sits in the path of exhaust gases, it's going to get coated and will
eventually need to be replaced. In fact, the "Ford Full Size Trucks" manual
indicates that the oxygen sensor (EGO) must be replaced every 30,000 miles.
Which I found interesting that none of the information that came with my
brand new pickup (in 1992) mentioned anything about this! But this explained
why my well cared for pickup started running lousy at around 55k miles.

The non-firing injector (the long version of the story):

Ever since new, the engine had a fair amount of vibration at idle. Nobody
ever really thought anything about it. The guys at Ford thought it was
normal. "It's the new emission controls," they said. So fast forward over
five years and 65,000 miles later and one day the truck started to feel like
it was running out of gas (I've got two tanks and have taken the first tank
to empty several times, the engine starts to shake and jerk like the gas is
sputtering into the injection), but this time the tank was about 1/2 full
(yes, I'm an opptimist!). About that time the "check engine" light came on.
I quickly switched over to the full tank and things settled down. Once I
got back home, I plugged in my engine trouble code reader and read a "lean"
code. Part of the trouble code read test is the Key-On-Engine-Off sequence.
You can hear the fuel pump wind up and all the other relays and solenoids in
the engine compartment click on-off. I switched over to the "bad" tank and....

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