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fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, September 15 1997 Volume 01 : Number 113



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In this issue:

Re: PCV Filter [Steven McCullough ]
Spray-on bed liners [Steven McCullough ]
Re: F-250 [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Mass Air conversion ["Stephen M. Brown" ]
Re: Quit whining [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Spray-on bed liners [Thom Cheney ]
Re: F-250 [Thom Cheney ]
splash [Thom Cheney ]
RE: splash [Brian Pynn ]
Re: Good News! ["John Thomas Taylor" ]
Re: F-250 [Jim Lujan ]
88 F150 hsrd shifting [yhtlines surfari.net]
GOOD NEWS! [yhtlines surfari.net]
Re: F-250 [BILLPEGZ aol.com]
Re: splash [Thom Cheney ]
Re: F-250 [Paul Laughlin ]
Re: F-250 [BILLPEGZ aol.com]
RE: 1997 vs 1999 F350 CrewCab7.3L powerstroke ["Beaman, James"
RE: splash [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
5th Wheel Questions [Frank Nesbitt ]
Re: splash [Jerad Heffner ]
Re: 5th Wheel Questions [Don Lewoniuk ]

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:25:59 -0700
From: Steven McCullough
Subject: Re: PCV Filter

The PCV valve is located on the rear of the left valve cover.
The PCV breather filter is located inside the air filter box
just under the main filter (lift it out).




At 07:12 PM 9/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Question: Does an EFI engine have a PCV filter (air breather)? The part
> >is listed for my vehicle, but after looking in the engine, I don't see one.
> I know where they would normally be on a carbuerated engine... but on
>EFI?? (if it exists). Haynes shows a carbuerated engine, so it's no help.
>I looked at the part, it doesn't seem to resemble those from carb' ed
> >engine.
>
> Thanks for the info....
> Lou.
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:28:27 -0700
From: Steven McCullough
Subject: Spray-on bed liners

Anyone had any experience with these spray-in rubber coatings
used as bed liners. At first I thought it was a bad idea, but
I saw one the other day on another truck and the rubber was dyed
to match the color of the truck - I thought it looked pretty nice.

Any thoughts? Typical prices?

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:31:02, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: F-250

JJ,

I have spec'd an F-250 to your specs and I have a price of $29,000.
The dealer that quoted you $300.00 over dealer invoice may not show
you the invoice when it comes in and may try to screw you out of some
money. I quote you this price regardless of dealer invoice or if the
price level may change which means a dealer price increase. You may
want to ask the dealer exactly what the price will be to compare with
my price. Please get back to me soon. The window for ordering is
closing soon.

Josh

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:37:20 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: Mass Air conversion

cc: fordtrucklist

I have been through the long and short of the hunt for mass air for my 5.8
95 Bronco for almost a year now. I have finally given up.

Ford has had the lightning mass air stuff "in development" for quite a
while. Everytime I call Motorsport tech line, they say, "Nope, still not
delivering that thing."

There is roundabout way to do it (Lightning owners have been doing it for a
while)...call Best Products (sorry can't find their number...I think their
in Michigan...try web search...I found them once before).
They sell a kit that gives you two computers for control...Your stock
computer controls the xmission while a new mustang computer controls the
engine via input from new mass air sensor.

Other option....California trucks with the 5.0 and the 5.8 were mass air in
96. I have called a California dealership & with some social engineering,
they will sell you everything you need to go Mass Air. Problem is, as far
as I can tell, no one has tested it (and, no one seems to know if there are
any other differences in the Cali. trucks that would cause a problem with
the swap).

I got frustrated & just supercharged my Bronco last month. Now I have
plenty of power without needing mass air.

Last wrinkle...C&M has a computer re-programmer called the CALIBRATOR. So
far they are just making it for the EEC-IV mustangs, but Mike Wesley says
Trucks are next (E4OD!!!). It could be a while...BUT (here's the good
part), IT ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR MASS AIR CONVERSION! You can reprogram
the built in look up tables (which contain stock engine info) with your own
tables of modified engine info. In his trials, speed density mustangs
(pre-89) were FASTER than mass air mustangs!. So I'll sit around and wait.
Maybe by then, I'll rebuild the 351 with some more go fast parts!

steve

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:42:00 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Quit whining

Edward A Arkin wrote:
>
> Re Tom C wait 'til ya add a girlfriend to your list--
> its even harder,
> i mean more diffacult to do everything you wanna do
>
I guess you could lump that under "time consuming hobbies"..... so
far I have avoided that kind of trouble.

:)---%
(self portrait, nude)

TC

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:26:31 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

Steven McCullough wrote:
>
> Anyone had any experience with these spray-in rubber coatings
> used as bed liners. At first I thought it was a bad idea, but
> I saw one the other day on another truck and the rubber was dyed
> to match the color of the truck - I thought it looked pretty nice.
>
> Any thoughts? Typical prices?

I have also been looking into the spray on liners. They seem to run
about twice the price of a drop in bedliner here in Portland. Knew
someone who had it done to his truck. The only bad thing I could see
was that he kept getting air bubbles. They were warranted by the
installer, but after 2 trips back he lived with them.

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:38:57 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: F-250

MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:
>
> JJ,
>
> I have spec'd an F-250 to your specs and I have a price of $29,000.
> The dealer that quoted you $300.00 over dealer invoice may not show
> you the invoice when it comes in and may try to screw you out of some
> money. I quote you this price regardless of dealer invoice or if the
> price level may change which means a dealer price increase. You may
> want to ask the dealer exactly what the price will be to compare with
> my price. Please get back to me soon. The window for ordering is
> closing soon.


Get your price before the dealer orders your truck!!!! Check the
Kelly Blue book site and get the dealer's cost on all of your options.
Don't forget that the dealer gets a 3% "hold-back" based on the MSRP
less the destination charge. Even if the dealer sold to you at
"invoice" he would still make a buck or 2. The only thing you might
miss out on by ordering the truck are some of the incentives that a
lot truck might be subject to. These totalled about $2500 on my
truck. Fortunately, the dealer had a truck I could live with right
there.

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:31:53 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: splash

I am looking at bedliners, etc. If I get a bedliner, I think I'll get
the "under rail" type. I think that 8" plastic lip of the
over-the-rail type looks unsightly. I am concerned with protecting
that area though. It seems that the Splash trucks have a matte black
coating(?) around the rail of their beds. My local Ford parts guy is
not inspired enough to figure out whether or not it is paint or a
sticker. Anyone have this kind of info?

gracias,

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:10:25 -0700
From: Brian Pynn
Subject: RE: splash

Hi Thom...just bought myself a 97 Ranger XL S/Cab with a 3.0L. Perhaps
I'll think differently if I try to pull any substantial load with
it...but as far as normal get-up-and-go driving...I find it has plenty
of pep. Are you the 3 or 4 litre, and do you feel the horsepower is
adequate? I've been surprised to see so many complaints about
horsepower with the V6; so many guys wanting to get new filters,
headers, chips, etc. to boost performance. Seems like a waste of money
to me for a 5-10$ boost in HP and torque.

> ----------
> From: Thom Cheney[SMTP:tcgrafx imagina.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 1997 6:31 AM
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: splash
>
> I am looking at bedliners, etc. If I get a bedliner, I think I'll get
>
> the "under rail" type. I think that 8" plastic lip of the
> over-the-rail type looks unsightly. I am concerned with protecting
> that area though. It seems that the Splash trucks have a matte black
> coating(?) around the rail of their beds. My local Ford parts guy is
> not inspired enough to figure out whether or not it is paint or a
> sticker. Anyone have this kind of info?
>
> gracias,
>
> Thom Cheney
> '97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:44:00 +0000
From: "John Thomas Taylor"
Subject: Re: Good News!

what the hell is TPS?

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:22:40 -0600
From: Jim Lujan....

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