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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:45:46 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, October 24 1997 Volume 01 : Number 188



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In this issue:

RE: FI cleaning [David Hertzberg ]
Re: Dual Tanks and Oil Pressure Gauge [David Hertzberg
RE: Trucks owners in Baltimore? [David Hertzberg
Bronco II Suspension [cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)]
Bronco II windshield [cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #187 ["David J. Moran" ]
Re: Tailgates and Mileage [David Hertzberg ]
Re: FI cleaning ["Hummer" ]
Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore? ["Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP"
Re: F350 Diesel, 2 Batteries [Bill Funk ]
SEMA show [William Street ]
Fuel return ["Mike Jones"]
remove [bs p ]
remove [bs p ]
Re: 1997 Ford Ranger [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Headers for 2.3L 4cyl [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: 93' Ranger STX 4x4 3.0 [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
1999 Brochure ["Jason M. Lester" ]
Re: Bronco II Suspension [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Mouse ["Casey Vandor" ]
RE:RE: 97 Ranger cutting out 100+ mph [greg.medert gsa.gov]
Re: none [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Switching Between Dual Tanks [Thom Cheney ]
Re: none [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Bronco II windshield [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 05:08:22 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: RE: FI cleaning

why not try the chevron fi cleaning product (is it called techguard??) for 7
dollars first, then see what happens??


>What are the opinions on fuel injection cleaning. Should I do the $60
>cleaning at the dealer, or dump a can of treatment in the gas tank?

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 05:38:25 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: Dual Tanks and Oil Pressure Gauge

thanks keith. terrific, comprehensive and very useful information. regards, david


>David, I do not know which year or model of truck you have or if it is a
>single owner or multi owner, but on the 1989 F-150's- 350's/Bronco's and
>f-Super Duty trucks the oil pressure gauge was not a gauge on all the
>trucks....

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 05:41:56 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: RE: Trucks owners in Baltimore?

we live in gaithersburg, about 40 miles southwest of baltimore.

>HI GANG!
>Just wondering if there are any list members in Baltimore,Maryland. It
>seems as if I am the only one around!!! E-mail me if your in the area.
>
>Mike
>95 F-250 HD 4X4 pwrstrk diesel
> >94 E.B. Explorer 4X4
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David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:42:40 -0400
From: cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)
Subject:
Bronco II Suspension
>
My 89
Bronco II sits lower in the rear, it gets really bad when I put
anything in the back or carry passengers in the back. I don't know how
many miles are on the shocks but there is 160,000 on the truck. My
question is, is this a shock problem or a spring problem? Would a good
set of shocks eliminate this problem?

Chuck Van Hooser
89 Bronco II Eddie Baurer

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:48:32 -0400
From: cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)
Subject: Bronco II windshield

Another problem I am having with my Bronco II is a leak at the upper
corner of the windshield on the drivers side, I only notice it after I
get in it when it has been parked in the rain. The corner of the
headliner becomes wet to the touch, but not so much that it is dripping
or anything like that. Is there a way to correct this problem without
having the windshield removed and resealed? Has anyone else experienced
this, and if so how did you correct the problem?

Chuck Van Hooser
89 Bronco II Eddie Baurer

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 06:58:20 EDT
From: "David J. Moran"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #187

>Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:01:33 -0400
>From: Michael Ruth
>Subject: Trucks owners in Baltimore?
>
>HI GANG!
>Just wondering if there are any list members in Baltimore,Maryland. It
>seems as if I am the only one around!!! E-mail me if your in the area.
>
>Mike
>95 F-250 HD 4X4 pwrstrk diesel
> >94 E.B. Explorer 4X4
>
Hi Mike,
Not exactly Baltimore, I work in Savage, Rt 1 and 32, and live in
Westminster, (Carroll Co.) right off Liberty Rd. (Rt 26)
98 F150, Extended Cab, Pacific Green, 4.6L, 3.55, 4X4

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 05:44:04 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: Tailgates and Mileage

Craig:

Thom C. wrote that running with the
tailgate down or off actually DECREASES
mileage. Best to cap it or cover it.

This is correct. According to what i read--and this is the unscientific version--
trucks are aerodynamically designed so that when you drive oncoming air passes over
the roof of the cab and completely avoids the "bubble" of air that is formed in the
bed. The tailgate "traps" this "bubble". After hauling hay in the back of our
truck, I will be driving down the highway and in the rear view mirror will notice
the little pieces of leftover hay sort of moving slowly in a circular motion;
even though air is passing over the truck at 55 or 60 mph, the pieces of hay never
leave the area defined by the "bubble"--and thereby confirms its existence. I used
to keep the tailgate off--i used a piece of 3/4 inch pipe to hold the two sides of
the truck apart. But ever since putting the tailgate back on, my mileage has
increased pretty dramatically. very counterintuitive (there's a good word!).
regards david


David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:34:46 -0400
From: "Hummer"
Subject: Re: FI cleaning

The Chevron stuff worked very well it seems. I had an '88 Aerostar
rebuilt at 145000 miles and the guy who did it was amazed at the injectors.
They were clean and not "pitted" as he called it. I was unaware and am
still not sure that they can get pitted, but I do know the engine never had
a problem. I rebuilt it because I was giving it to a friend and felt it
should be in tip top shape before I did so. Can you use the same stuff in a
Powerstroke or does a diesel have its' own needs ?

Hummer

- -----Original Message-----
From: David Hertzberg
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 6:18 AM
Subject: RE: FI cleaning


>why not try the chevron fi cleaning product (is it called techguard??) for
7
>dollars first, then see what happens??
>
>
>>What are the opinions on fuel injection cleaning. Should I do the $60
>>cleaning at the dealer, or dump a can of treatment in the gas tank?
>
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:06:43 -0700
From: "Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP"
Subject: Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore?

Michael Ruth wrote:
>
> HI GANG!
> Just wondering if there are any list members in Baltimore,Maryland. It
> seems as if I am the only one around!!! E-mail me if your in the area.
>
> Mike
> 95 F-250 HD 4X4 pwrstrk diesel
> > 94 E.B. Explorer 4X4
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I live in Huntingtown, in Calvert County, about 60 miles south of
Baltimore, but I work in Annapolis.

Devient Gene

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:16:09 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: F350 Diesel, 2 Batteries

> From: Steve Field
> Subject: F350 Deisel, 2 batteries, again
>
> The current question involves the device that hooks from
> lighter-socket
> to lighter-socket and charges the target car.
>
> The source vehicle is the F350/Deisel - The idea is to be able to
> charge=
>
> some other car. One would leave the truck idling and the charge takes
>
> about 15-30 minutes.
>
> The questions are: How safe is this? For a deisel? Anyone have
> first-hand knowledge of using such a device? Are there any phone
> numbers=
>
> at Ford for technical info in this area?

Keep in mind that, at idle, an alternator won't put out enough to charge
its own battery, much less another one.Such devices are mostly
last-ditch, grab-at-a-straw efforts to keep from paying for the tow
truck (which can be very expensive).
If you can carry one of these items, carrying a true jumper cable set
(and knowing how to use it) is a much better way to go.

Bill Funk

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:58:13 -0700
From: William Street
Subject: SEMA show

Anyone know when the SEMA show in Las Vegas is? How about a contact
for SEMA (phone, email, web, etc.).

Thanks

Bill
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:54:44 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Fuel return

>
tank
> can be elevated by 50 degrees during a long trip. This is because of
> two things. First, the fuel picks up heat by cooling the pump, and
> second, it picks up heat from the engine when it gets to the fuel rail
> (at the engine), before the excess is returned to the tank.

Just read where one model or another (I think it is the 3.0 L Taurus?) now
uses a variable-speed fuel pump and no recirc back to the tank in order to
eliminate this very problem. I assume Ford and other manufacturers will
extend this concept to other vehicles eventually.

Mike J.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: bs p
Subject: remove

remove


- ---Geoffrey Hoffman wrote:
>
> At 8:49 PM -0400 10/21/97, Chris wrote:
> > I'm looking to buy some winter tires for my
Ranger, and was wondering if
> >anyone knew what the conversion from my current
tires would be to a tire of
> >a different series ?
>
> well, i can tell you what the numbers mean, and you
can calculate it. lets
> use 235/60R15 as an example (your initial tires).
first of all, the R
> means radials. easy enough. the "15" is the size
of your rim, in inches.
> easy enough. here is where the fun starts: the
235 is the width of the
> tire in _millimeters_, so it is 23.5 cm wide. the
60 is the height of the
> sidewall to width of the tire ratio, so the height
of the tire from the
> ground to your rim (or the thickness, kinda) is 60%
of the width.
>
> >Currently I have P235s on 15 inch rims that are
60 series.
> >
> >I plan to go to a standard 15 inch rim and hope to
put on 75 series tires.
>
> so, realize that going to a 75 type tire, your
tires have more height
> and/or less width, depending on what you want.
>
> >Would that mean that the size of the tire should
be a P205 ? or P215
>
> well, they are are going to be different tires.
you can ask someone for
> more specifics on advantages of wider or narrower
tires for snow, cause i
> am not really sure.
>
> >I don't think that P235/75R15 & P235/60R15 tires
> will be the same size,
> >which would alter my spedometer (that's is if they
would even fit)
>
> so, you can calculate to get the height of the
total tire, which us the
> thing that affects your speedo. this is very
convoluted, but it is how it
> is (we will use 235/60R15 again):
>
> the width is 235, or 23.5 cm. lets go to inches
first: so, 23.5 cm ->
> inces = 9.25 inches or so.
>
> then for the height: 9.25 x .60 = 5.55 inches.
this the sidewall height.
>
> to get the total height, it will (2 x 5.55) + 15 =
26.1 inches, so roughly
> a 26 inch
tire that is 9 1/4 inches wide.
>
> you can use this to compare with the other format
(which is a lot easier)
> which is something like 31x10.5R15 so, R = radial,
15 is the rim, 31 is
> the total height, and 10.5 is the width, all in
inches.
>
> does this help? so i dunno, sit down and calculate
some stuff, i guess.
>
> if you want the same height as you have, then you
need to back track. you
> have 26.1 inches, so subtract 15, and divide by 2,
and you have 5.55 for a
> sidewall. now, that means with a 75% ratio, you
only need 7.4 inches,
> which is something like a 188 for width, so, you
would need a 190/75R15 to
> get the same speedo.
>
> anyway, this means that your 205/75 or more 215/75
will be bigger, they are
> in the order of a 27" and 27" 1/2 tires, so it will
have an affect, since
> you have 26" right now.
>
> anyway, i hope this is everything you even wanted
to know about tire sizes,
> and sorry for the length, but i hope this helps.
(can you tell i'm an
> engineer?)
>
> see ya...
>
> --
> Geoffrey Hoffman gch2 cornell.edu
> Cornell University
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy
>
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: bs p
Subject: remove

remove


- ---Geoffrey Hoffman wrote:
>
> At 8:49 PM -0400 10/21/97, Chris wrote:
> > I'm looking to buy some winter tires for my
Ranger, and was wondering if
> >anyone knew what the conversion from my current
tires would be to a tire of
> >a different series ?
>
> well, i can tell you what the numbers mean, and you
can calculate it. lets
> use 235/60R15 as an example (your initial tires).
first of all, the R
> means radials. easy enough. the "15" is the size
of your rim, in inches.
> easy enough. here is where the fun starts: the
235 is the width of the
> tire in _millimeters_, so it is 23.5 cm wide. the
60 is the height of the
> sidewall to width of the tire ratio, so the height
of the tire from the
> ground to your rim (or the thickness, kinda) is 60%
of the width.
>
> >Currently I have P235s on 15 inch ....


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