Return-Path:
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:27:04 -0400 (EDT) To: fordtrucks-digest lofcom.com
From: digest-proc lofcom.com
Subject: fordtrucks Digest v97 n0046
Reply-To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Volume 97 Number 0046 fordtrucks Digest

Today's Topics:

re: '61 vacuum advance
California prices
Unsubscribe
To warranty or not?
To warranty or not?
47 2 ton question
Status '61 vacuum advance
Re: Status '61 vacuum advance
RE:running without oil
Re: 47 2 ton question
RE:running without oil
Attn: Bob Moore
RE:running without oil
Re: To warranty or not?
F100 New exhaust.

Re: your mailextend? what? why?
Re: To warranty or not?
1985 or 86 Ford TRanger Turbodiesel
Re: To warranty or not?
FW: Welcome to FORDTRUCKS !!
RE: Welcome to FORDTRUCKS !!
RE: Welcome to FORDTRUCKS !!
Welcome to FORDTRUCKS !!
1992 Flareside Dying!
400 ford engine
> Re: 47 F 2 ton question
Napco parts
> Re: 400 ford engine
>

* PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE DIGEST IN REPLIES TO THE LIST! *

--------------------------------------------------

>From mmiller dryden.net Tue Apr 15 23:34:27 1997 From: "Mitch Miller" Subject: re: '61 vacuum advance
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

This may or may not apply. Take a look at the carb accelerator pump to see if the throttle linkage is connected in the right position. Different positions for different seasons, eh?

(My reply may seem a little tardy as I am a digest subscriber)

Mitch
mmiller dryden.net













------------------------------
>From yhtlines surfari.net Tue Apr 15 23:49:01 1997 From: yhtlines surfari.net
Subject: California prices
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Spent a couple of hours at the local wrecked truck emporium today.
Interesting. I was there to get some parts for my son's recently purchased '88 F150 4X. As they have the only game in town, I had to pay their prices.....

$45 for a spare tire carrier and $25 for a spare tire and wheel....I did snag a head light knob and a wiper arm.

They had all their 70's Ford trucks marked for crushing to be replaced with cars in a pick/pull operation. Very few 80's models there. Just few wrecks.
He stated they get most their vehicles now from smog test failures. I did note them parting out vehicles that were obviously driven in.

Question: while there I noted the presence of several nice rear anti-sway bars, but on 2x vehicles. Since my son's is a 4X, I wondered what it would take to make one of these work, other than longer chassis support arms. Any body got a 4x with a rear sway bar? His 88 stands (stock) three inches taller at the fender well than my 2X 95 F150.

I had my 95 F150 and his 95 GMC both up for sale this weekend, and not a single call came in. Is this a bad tax time or what?

Dave Lampert yhtlines surfari.net



------------------------------
>From davnport gfherald.infi.net Wed Apr 16 00:00:44 1997 From: Trent Davenport Subject: Unsubscribe
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Please unsubscribe me. It's been nice, maybe some other time when I have more time!


------------------------------
>From JIM.E.CRAWFORD conoco.dupont.com Wed Apr 16 08:55:09 1997 From: JIM.E.CRAWFORD conoco.dupont.com
X400-Originator: JIM.E.CRAWFORD conoco.dupont.com X400-Recipients: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=CONOCO/ADMD=MCI/C=US/;0010000002991713000004] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22)
Subject: To warranty or not?
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Crawford, Jim E.
To: Inline Internet Addressing
Subject: To warranty or not?
Date: 1997-04-16 07:54
Message ID: 1962EA45
Conversation ID: 1962EA45

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hello all! I would like to hear what everyone thinks about Ford's factory bumper- bumper warranties. I recently purchased a '95 F-150xl, 300 I-6, 5spd standard. I'm about 1500 miles away from the end of the original 3yr/36k bumper to bumper warranty and am wondering whether I should renew or not!
I'm not a mechanic, I just love to drive my truck, fix it up, and yes, even wax and clean it! I'm being told that to extend my warranty, I will need to pay approximately $500-600 for an additional 36k miles, and have a $100 deductible.

I don't plan on making any serious modifications....maybe just adding a power chip, fatter tires, etc.

Your help is much appreciated!



------------------------------
>From jhazewinkel EXODUS.VALPO.EDU Wed Apr 16 09:31:38 1997 From: Jeff Hazewinkel Subject: 47 2 ton question
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I am evaluating the purchase of a 47 2 ton that has been sitting for about 20 years. The body is in good condition and the original flathead 8 cyl with 35,000 miles on it is under the hood. I have a good feeling what the chassis is worth, but am struggling regarding the engine. If the engine could easily be made to run again, the truck is worth more that if I have to find another engine. Is there an easy way to evaluate an engine of a truck sitting in a field to see if it has potential ? I understand there is no was to be 100 % certain, but I would like to have a little confidence.

Jeff


------------------------------
>From kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us Wed Apr 16 09:50:38 1997 From: kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us
Subject: Status '61 vacuum advance
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Hey everyone,

An update to my '61 (well actually it's a '59) vacuum advance...

(Thanx to all the folks who responded to my question!)

Firstly, I have verified that my accelerator pump is working since I can see the jets spraying fuel into the barrels when I hit the throttle.

I then disconnected the vacuum advance and hooked up a flexible hose to the fitting and blew into it and the diaphram was leaking like it wasn't even there!! Went down to NAPA for a new unit. A couple days later, (this morning in fact) I picked up the new unit on the way into work. I plan to pop that sucker (literally!) in tonight.
I'll let you know what I find out....

Can anyone out there in cyber-truckster-land recommend a conversion kit that will allow me to use a modern spin-on oil filter in place of my canister-type filter? The engine is a '59 292 Y-block, and I find that changing that canister is a real pain, and sometimes it leaks.

Thanks in advance.
Eric



Take a look at the carb accelerator pump to see
> if the throttle linkage is connected in the right position. Different
> positions for different seasons, eh?
>
> (My reply may seem a little tardy as I am a digest subscriber)
>
> Mitch
> mmiller dryden.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>
=============================
"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
w/'59 292 Y-block
=============================


------------------------------
>From varners ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us Wed Apr 16 10:16:08 1997 From: Stuart Varner Subject: Re: Status '61 vacuum advance
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

kulige vitro.bloomington.in.us wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> An update to my '61 (well actually it's a '59) vacuum advance...
>
> (Thanx to all the folks who responded to my question!)
>
> Firstly, I have verified that my accelerator pump is working since I
> can see the jets spraying fuel into the barrels when I hit the
> throttle.
>
> I then disconnected the vacuum advance and hooked up a flexible hose
> to the fitting and blew into it and the diaphram was leaking like it
> wasn't even there!! Went down to NAPA for a new unit. A couple days
> later, (this morning in fact) I picked up the new unit on the way
> into work. I plan to pop that sucker (literally!) in tonight.
> I'll let you know what I find out....
>
> Can anyone out there in cyber-truckster-land recommend a conversion
> kit that will allow me to use a modern spin-on oil filter in place of
> my canister-type filter? The engine is a '59 292 Y-block, and I find
> that changing that canister is a real pain, and sometimes it leaks.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Eric
>
> Take a look at the carb accelerator pump to see
> > if the throttle linkage is connected in the right position. Different
> > positions for different seasons, eh?
> >
> > (My reply may seem a little tardy as I am a digest subscriber)
> >
> > Mitch
> > mmiller dryden.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________
> > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> > To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> > For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
> >
> >
> =============================
> "Happy Days"
> 1961 F100 Pick'em up Truck
> w/'59 292 Y-block
> =============================
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com Obsolete Ford Parts in OK City (1800.654.3247) has a conversion kit for for all 1952-1956 overhead valve engines. This may work

Call and ask. Part Number B7A-6882-A $19.95


------------------------------
>From lsmeins ball.com Wed Apr 16 11:04:31 1997 From: lsmeins ball.com (Larry Smeins)
Subject: RE:running without oil
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

>Today on the way to work I learned what it means to leave the old gasket
>behind when replacing oil filters. I don't think I sat idling w/o oil
>pressure for more than 1-2 minutes. I had no oil pressure but enough Mobil1
>in the pan *not* to trigger the check oil light of my 1993 4.0 Ranger.
>
>Question: What do folks suggest I do to minimize further damage? I'm
>planning to change oil and filter tonight.
>*Big* Question: How much damage did I do?

If you only idled 1 to 2 minutes without oil pressure it is most likely that any damage done will be insignificant. I had a similar thing happen several years ago on a Chrysler 318 and had no problems after replacing the filter and oil. I had an employee in the late 60s that drove a Porsche 356 5 miles with no oil pump, he thought his oil pressure switch had failed, and upon tear down there was no apparent damage. The fact you were using Mobil 1 makes it even less likely damage has occurred. If damage has occurred it will be rod or main bearing scuffing and when that happens all hell breaks loose, you will soon know it.

Put the new oil and filter in and drive your truck. If you've been blessed with an oil pressure gauge watch it for a loss of pressure. You should be OK.

Larry
If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.



------------------------------
>From wsabers sunflowr.usd.edu Wed Apr 16 11:11:43 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: sunburst.usd.edu: wsabers owned process doing -bs From: William Sabers Subject: Re: 47 2 ton question
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Jeff,
From what little experience with 'ole flatheads and other motors (in general) that have sat around for a long time....

1) pour transmission fluid down the carb (until you are sure there is a
good amount in each cylinder).
2) let it sit for awhile... like a couple days. let the fluid penetrate
and work around the parts.
3) a few days later try to turn the crank with a 1/2" drive. If it takes
more, you are simply damaging the engine which may, by this time,
be only a pile of rusted or welded metal.

This is to make sure the rings will not scratch the block up or if they are rusted, it may loosen them up. Now, you can check and see if the motor is siezed or if there is any compression without starting or tearing apart the motor.
However, the last option is the most reliable.


On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Jeff Hazewinkel wrote:

> I am evaluating the purchase of a 47 2 ton that has been sitting for
> about 20 years. The body is in good condition and the original flathead
> 8 cyl with 35,000 miles on it is under the hood. I have a good feeling
> what the chassis is worth, but am struggling regarding the engine. If
> the engine could easily be made to run again, the truck is worth more
> that if I have to find another engine. Is there an easy way to evaluate
> an engine of a truck sitting in a field to see if it has potential ? I
> understand there is no was to be 100 % certain, but I would like to have
> a little confidence.
>
> Jeff
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>



------------------------------
>From wiandt vnet.net Wed Apr 16 11:33:22 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: jimi.vnet.net: ACCS-AS18-DP14.ATLN.grid.net [206.80.183.207] didn't use HELO protocol From: Larry Wiandt
Subject: RE:running without oil
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

At 11:04 AM 1997/04/16 -0400, you wrote:
>>Today on the way to work I learned what it means to leave the old gasket
>>behind when replacing oil filters. I don't think I sat idling w/o oil
>>pressure for more than 1-2 minutes. I had no oil pressure but enough Mobil1
>>in the pan *not* to trigger the check oil light of my 1993 4.0 Ranger.
snip

I did this to a 1980 Celica when it had about 5,000 miles on it back in 1980. I proceeded to run it for another 13 years and over 160,000 miles.
When I sold it, the engine still ran like the day I drove it off the dealers lot. You probabaly did no damage at all.

Good Luck


------------------------------
>From QNKY92A prodigy.com Wed Apr 16 12:07:17 1997 From: QNKY92A prodigy.com ( JARED CASCADDEN) Subject: Attn: Bob Moore
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

Bob,

I apologize for posting this to the list but I've lost Bob's email address.

I think that I may have worded my last note to you incorrectly. We are still interested in buying the '57 truck. We will NOT be scraping it!!!! I shiver at the thought of destroying a classic vehicle. In the end we will still have two vehicles. We'll just be swapping parts and the end result will be one that is set up the way we want it-- as original as possible, and the other will be put together and available for restoration .
This is why we have 2 Dodge Town wagons, one a power wagon,(but we are really diehart FORD Folk!) and a Power Wagon Truck. Sometimes parts are not easy to come by so youve got to get a couple complete ones. In the end we'll have all three vehicles two the way we want them-as original as possible, the third will be available for restoration.

So email us with an answer. Thanks Jared & Jeannine QNKY92A prodigy.com


------------------------------
>From wsabers sunflowr.usd.edu Wed Apr 16 12:58:50 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: sunburst.usd.edu: wsabers owned process doing -bs From: William Sabers Subject: RE:running without oil
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com

I would not worry,
Many years ago, my dad ran a service station. One of his more uptight customers would come in for 1 gallon of gas and "full service" which included draining his oil. This customer then drove 10 miles to another station and had someone fill the crankcase and change the filter.
This car lasted over 100,000 miles ('58 Dodge).
I know it is an extreme case, but if you driving hard, I would not worry.....

Wsabers
69 Mustang
78 Bronco
>


On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Larry Smeins wrote:

> >Today on the way to work I learned what it means to leave the old gasket
> >behind when replacing oil filters. I don't think I sat idling w/o oil
> >pressure for more than 1-2 minutes. I had no oil pressure but enough Mobil1
> >in the pan *not* to trigger the check oil light of my 1993 4.0 Ranger.
> >
> >Question: What do folks suggest I do to minimize further damage? I'm
> >planning to change oil and filter tonight.
> >*Big* Question: How much damage did I do?
>
> If you only idled 1 to 2 minutes without oil pressure it is most likely that
> any damage done will be insignificant. I had a similar thing happen several
> years ago on a Chrysler 318 and had no problems after replacing the filter
> and oil. I had an employee in the late 60s that drove a Porsche 356 5 miles
> with no oil pump, he thought his oil pressure switch had failed, and upon
> tear down there was no apparent damage. The fact you were using Mobil 1
> makes it even less likely damage has occurred. If damage has occurred it
> will be rod or main bearing scuffing and when that happens all hell breaks
> loose, you will soon know it.
>
> Put the new oil and filter in and drive your truck. If you've been blessed
> with an oil pressure gauge watch it for a loss of pressure. You should be
> OK.
>
> Larry
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> To send mail to fordtrucks, use the address: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> For help send a message with "HELP" in the body to:list-request lofcom.com
> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.com
>
>



------------------------------
>From dherzog fv.stlcc.cc.mo.us Wed Apr 16 13:11:58 1997 From: dherzog fv.stlcc.cc.mo.us (David Herzog) Subject: Re: To warranty or not?
To: FORDTRUCKS ....

---

To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.